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  The Memorial- Passing the emblems, a prime display of weirdness

  by Darth Fader The Sequel in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  not sure if this bothered other people, but it absolutely drove me crazy!!!!.

  ok, typical annual memorial.

  the emblems are being passed around.

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  Now come on, Focus......... let's not get gross about this.
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  The Memorial- Passing the emblems, a prime display of weirdness

  by Darth Fader The Sequel in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  not sure if this bothered other people, but it absolutely drove me crazy!!!!.

  ok, typical annual memorial.

  the emblems are being passed around.

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  Exactly correct, ADCMS! Pharisaical busy work is what consumes so much of the JW life. I am convinced that the people who clamor for this sort of pomp and ceremony can be broken down to personality types. There are just a whole lot of human beings who relish the religiosity, no matter which actual religion they happen to choose or fall into. They feel secure in the structure of it. They like the rules and the titles and the ceremonies. They do not have their faith built within their spine. Rather, their faith is a structure built around and over them.
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  The Memorial- Passing the emblems, a prime display of weirdness

  by Darth Fader The Sequel in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  not sure if this bothered other people, but it absolutely drove me crazy!!!!.

  ok, typical annual memorial.

  the emblems are being passed around.

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  Not sure if this bothered other people, but it absolutely drove me CRAZY!!!!

  OK, typical annual Memorial. The emblems are being passed around. The number one thing on people's minds at that moment is "Oh dear gawd, please don't let me or my child be the one to spill anything!" The number two thing on people's mind is "I wonder what bat-shit crazy person is here tonight that is going to partake? Is it Brother Never Attends? Could it be Sister Crazy Cat Lady? Maybe it will be young elder, Brother My Poo Don't Stink?"

  So, the emblems get passed all around to those seated. Then the teams of brothers doing the passing go to the ones standing in the back of the hall or in the lobby or wherever. This is when my frustration begins........... They insist on having each and every human being in the hall touch and hold the plate or wine glass. Not just have the opportunity to reach out and take the emblem if they are so moved. No, THEY HAVE TO ALL HOLD IT MOMENTARILY!!! As if the momentary touching and holding of the plate or wine glass is somehow a "Holy" experience. The 4 year old kid with ADHD gets to hold it. The 90 year old sister with Parkinson's get to hold it (barely). The father standing in back with the wriggling and writhing bronco toddler has to hold it. The middle-aged sister with enough pharmaceuticals pumping through her system to kill a race horse gets to hold it. EVERYBODY HAS TO HOLD THE EMBLEMS!!!! Making the entire procession longer than it needs to be and for no other reason than pomp and circumstance. Surely, anyone who was actually already decided that they were to partake would have made sure they got the *opportunity* to partake, which is all the Memorial emblems practice is supposed to be, an *opportunity* for the select extremely few.

  But then......... if you thought the whole procession could not get anymore weird and ridiculous........ they take it to an all new level of WEIRDNESS!!!!! Yes, the very same brothers that spent the last 10 minutes passing out the emblems to a few hundred people must then go sit down in their reserved chairs in the front row of the hall and some other brother stands up and offers THEM the emblems to clutch and hold and fondle for absolutely no reason (like some sort of bizarre reverse Musical Chairs game). As if the only way that one who is moved to partake is if they are in a sitting position (or standing in the back because the joint is dangerously overfilled with people who are only there to please their mothers) and having someone else hand them the emblem.

  And for the grand finale of weirdness, the brother standing on stage having given the Memorial talk and is mere inches away from the table with the emblems sitting on it must then have one of the brothers come up on stage and ceremoniously hand the emblems to the brother, he holds for two beats (looking down at the emblem with a fake serious look on his face as if he is considering it) and then hands it back to the other brother who then sets the emblems back down on the table immediately adjacent to the podium.

  To me this entire charade is as if the JW's, who claim to be no part of Christendom and religiosity, decided that one night per year we can all be Catholic with the silly procedures, the pious ceremony, the phony traditions. The only thing we are missing is the funny hats and the pot belching out smoke. The whole thing has made me nauseous since I was old enough to understand what the hell was going on.

  Instead of focusing (I put that in for you, Focus) on spending time grasping the emotions of Jesus and the sacrifice and all the momentous things that surrounded this that makes the Memorial important to us........... they turned it into a religious ceremony. Not only that but at this year's Memorial, the talk was basically devoid of ANY reference to Jesus at all. All we heard was about Jehovah and "the organization", the "kingdom". Nothing about Jesus.

  Phony, Fake. Charade. Fraud. Joke.
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  Praise For Witnesses On Welfare Who Full Time Pioneer!

  by minimus in

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  the watchtower has always praised witnesses who are on welfare and decided to pioneer.

  many in my congregation, including my mom, were given kudos, praise and assembly parts because they took advantage of jehovah's provision through the government....did you notice this, or was it obvious to me because i was raised in the inner city and many people recieved government help?.

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  Disability Pioneers......... Welfare Pioneers........ Unemployment Pioneers.........

  There should be a federal law against these scam artists.
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  Your most DISTURBING WATCHTOWER Bethel/Branch experience? (No full names please)

  by Balaamsass in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  ok.. you 70 plus bethelite members.... this is your chance to share stories!

  inquiring minds want to know !no full names please..follow t.o.s.

  to avoid borg libel lawsuits).. i will start the ball rolling with week one.

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  This is my first time reading through this thread. All of it is disturbing to say the least. Some of it was hysterically funny. I had tears running down my face. Thanks!!

  BTW- I somehow always instinctively knew that Bethel was NOT a place for me. Never had any desire to visit there. Never, ever, EVER wanted to live there. Straight up zombie cult.
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  If END is Imminent, Why Witness in Silence in Public Places?

  by ProfCNJ in

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  2. beliefs

  we were taught for 100 years that the end or armageddon is imminent, as if it is coming in a hurry.

  but look now at the new way of sharing god's kingdom in uk which i find as a complete irony.

  "thousands have switched tactics to stand on street corners in more than a dozen cities across britain - and unusually for public preachers, they are staying almost completely silent... unlike other evangelical preachers, they do not shout or call attention to themselves - instead standing in near-silence until someone approaches them."http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2691254/how-jehovahs-witnesses-got-street-smart-believers-swap-infamous-doorstepping-standing-outside-train-stations-shops.html.

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  ADCMS- You make a lot of sense there.
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  Paul - GB Member (W 9/15/14)

  by pixel in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  ok, is this a "new understanding" or what?

  up until this point i thought that the borg refered paul as a co or do, but never gb member:.

  p. 12 now, why would paul a spiritual giant who likely was a member of the first-century governing bodycall himself a miserable man?.

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  "It is reasonable to conclude.......... (add whatever you just pulled out of your ass here)_______________"

  HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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  Convention Season-"Saving Good Seats" & Other Embarrassing Behavior

  by Darth Fader The Sequel in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  since it is the convention season (and i am not attending this year or ever again), and i have been seeing other posts about some of the goings on at the various ic's and rc's, i am reminded of some of the truly embarrassing behavior i have "witnessed" (pun intended) over my lifetime of being a jdub at the various conventions and assemblies.

  probably the most disillusioning experience at a convention that i have ever had was one year when i volunteered to be an attendant.

  all of the volunteers were asked to attend a special meeting a few months beforehand to get instructions for our duties as attendants.

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  Hummingbird001- you are so right. The early birds get the aisle seats, never get up during the session and take diligent notes, and they get all indignant when a family with small kids has to get past them. There are way too many of those people.
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  If END is Imminent, Why Witness in Silence in Public Places?

  by ProfCNJ in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  we were taught for 100 years that the end or armageddon is imminent, as if it is coming in a hurry.

  but look now at the new way of sharing god's kingdom in uk which i find as a complete irony.

  "thousands have switched tactics to stand on street corners in more than a dozen cities across britain - and unusually for public preachers, they are staying almost completely silent... unlike other evangelical preachers, they do not shout or call attention to themselves - instead standing in near-silence until someone approaches them."http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2691254/how-jehovahs-witnesses-got-street-smart-believers-swap-infamous-doorstepping-standing-outside-train-stations-shops.html.

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  jgnat- people are on their phones and iPads. That is why the QR's are popping up all over the place amongst the devout rank and file. The QR's are direct links to the JW.ORG to get a quick (see: cheap) sermon to some unsuspecting person who happens to click on the QR that their "friend the JW" sent them or shared on social media. It is all so predictable and formatted.
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  Convention Season-"Saving Good Seats" & Other Embarrassing Behavior

  by Darth Fader The Sequel in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  since it is the convention season (and i am not attending this year or ever again), and i have been seeing other posts about some of the goings on at the various ic's and rc's, i am reminded of some of the truly embarrassing behavior i have "witnessed" (pun intended) over my lifetime of being a jdub at the various conventions and assemblies.

  probably the most disillusioning experience at a convention that i have ever had was one year when i volunteered to be an attendant.

  all of the volunteers were asked to attend a special meeting a few months beforehand to get instructions for our duties as attendants.

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  Apognophos- if you saw the foot speed of many of these "brothers and sisters" you would never call them "weak".